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Sun Dec 07, 2008 8:39 am » Post: #1 » Download Post

Hey Guys,

I'm now a fully paid up member of NSRWORLD..........it's taking a little longer that I thought it would be we got there in the end!

I'd just like to thank all you gus for you held and infomation, without people like you NSR's would be a very difficult and expensive passion.

I don't know if you guys get it where you are but in New Zealand I've found that if you walk into a Honda shop and tell them you have an NSR you might as well give them some ear plugs cause they sure as hell don't want to hear what you have to say after that!

Will post up a picture of my bike later in the week.
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Sun Dec 07, 2008 2:35 pm » Post: #2 » Download Post

We're quite lucky in the UK. Most shops I've pulled up at are usually rather interested in it! If you give official Honda dealers part numbers in the UK, they can all search the online Honda database. (The offical dealers were even actually "unofficially" issued "grey import" microfiche back in the mid 90's due to the huge numbers of NC23/24/29/30/MC21 coming into the country!)
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Sun Dec 07, 2008 8:17 pm » Post: #3 » Download Post

I went to my local Honda dealer (Hallens of Cambridge) when I needed a new front brake lever, went something like this:
Me:Hi I need a front brake lever for an NSR 250. Very Happy

Miserable shop employee: We dont have one in stock.

Me: I know its a grey import but I think it might be similar to a fireblade if I can compare my broken one to a new one. Smile

M.s.e.: we dont have any in stock

Me: What about a CBR 600. Sad

M.s.e.: No we dont hold ANY levers in stocK!

Me: Really you dont hold any levers in stock? Shocked WHY! Confused

M.s.e. We have a spares van deliver every day, we just ring them and its delivered the next day. I can get you one for Monday morning but if it doesnt fit you will still have to pay for it, we cant do refunds on parts we order in!

Me: Nah forget it i wouldnt want to put you to any trouble Evil or Very Mad

Twats! That still pisses me off when I think about it! Still I've not spent a penny in their since Very Happy
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Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:22 pm » Post: #4 » Download Post

Laughing

Like you say, on occasions like that I would be exactly the same. I won't entertain ignorance either, and although my money may not be much in the big scheme of things, if everyone voted with their feet like that, some of these companies would soon feel the pinch.
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Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:15 pm » Post: #5 » Download Post

i had that with brake pads and a chain,i mean for gods sake a chains a bleeding chain Rolling Eyes even though its rather red in my case Laughing
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Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:36 am » Post: #6 » Download Post

Well it seems that it's a bit of a problem round the world! I mean womem can vote! Black people can eat in the same place of us but bike shops discriminate against NSR owners! Maybe we sould start some bogus cause!

N.O.A.B.T.L.S ...................NSR Owners Against Being Treated Like Scum!! ahahahahahahahaha
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Mon Dec 08, 2008 5:16 am » Post: #7 » Download Post

silikesguiness wrote:
i had that with brake pads and a chain,i mean for gods sake a chains a bleeding chain Rolling Eyes even though its rather red in my case Laughing

Sorry Si, no sympathy here for that one! I mean, all you want is a 520 chain with 110~112 links (so you can shorten it back to whatever - usually 108); no part number necessary!

The pads are the same as a huge range of other Honda bikes... most notably VFR400 and early CBR900. The calipers, or variations of them, were used everything from the MC18 to the RC30 and RS250! I'd be extremely surprised if ANY dealer didn't have something like an EBC catalogue or similar under the counter that they could use to visually identify matching pads! (All the catalogues have diagrams of the pads - often actual size.)

Maybe I'm just lucky? Confused
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Mon Dec 08, 2008 5:57 am » Post: #8 » Download Post

I don't know if you guys get it where you are but in New Zealand I've found that if you walk into a Honda shop and tell them you have an NSR you might as well give them some ear plugs cause they sure as hell don't want to hear what you have to say after that!


I know how you feel brother. I wanted a little doofer that adjusts the MC18 headlight. They wouldn't even get out the microfiche I KNOW they have ( looked it up before, when I bought pistons) to look it up. " I'm sorry, you'll have to bring in the part number, engine and chassis numbers and model designation before we can look up anything like that" Shocked Way to LOSE business.

Just to note: I built the little doofer after work...
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Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:19 pm » Post: #9 » Download Post

Checking pads against the pic in the EBC catalouge ?

Why that would require someone to accually get the book out for starters hence there lies your problem !!! Very Happy

Off topic. Women voting. Funny a kiwi made that comment, because wasn't the first legislation ever passed to allow women to vote, signed in Lanach castle in Dunedin ?

ITS ALL YOUR FAULT !!!! Laughing Laughing Laughing

Back on topic. I rang my local honda shop to get chain and sprocket. Got a girl, so i asked for spares, she responded 'i can help you'
Me - Would you have a front sprocket and a x-ring chain for a NSR250 ?
Her - Is that a honda ?
Me - (in my head) *&%# &^%$ &&%$ *&$@ !!!!!!!
I hope she was good looking, because there wasn't anything else that got her that job.
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Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:31 pm » Post: #10 » Download Post

yes that was my point to the shop andy,they were saying its not listed for an nsr.i said it dosnt matter its just a normal 520 chain Rolling Eyes took about half hour for the halfwit to order it,then had to explain wanted a red one.then the first chain that came was blue Shocked
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Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:38 pm » Post: #11 » Download Post

Ahh, well there's no accounting for ignorance! Laughing I'd have just gone elsewhere!

I did have a similar "problem" recently with buying a radiator for a 1.6 Eunos Roadster. Despite the fact I know they are the same for 1.6 and 1.8 across a wide range of years, no-one would get one unless I could give a registration number so they could cross-reference it by registration year!

The stupid thing is, like with NSR's, the car could be any year "around" its registration year, which in fact it is! It on a J plate, but it's actually a 1993, not a 91~92. In the end I was able to by it from a human being who actually listened to what I wanted to say... and even got it about £40 cheaper than any of the conventional motor factors.

It's still no excuse in the UK when ordering NSR parts though. The local shop I used to use are tiny. They still even only had microfiche until about 5 years ago, yet they could order NSR parts for me since around 1995. It was them who told me they had all been issued the Japanese microfiche by Honda UK. Whether they chose to use it was another thing I guess.
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Wed Mar 11, 2009 6:57 am » Post: #12 » Download Post

After a good weekend racing and a few good lap times I'm thinking my bike might need a bit of a birthday!!

The track I raced on the weekend Pukekohe was the last round of the nationals has a huge long back straight! Pinned in 6th gear for a good 3-400m's into a 1st gear hairpin!

I'm sure I could hear funny noises at the end of the straight lap after lap!

It almost been a yaer of "hard" racing do you think it's time for some new pistons??? Or new rings??

If I knew how to start a poll I would!!

Would would be the most cost effective freshen up??
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Wed Mar 11, 2009 1:49 pm » Post: #13 » Download Post

If you think you can hear noises, then it's quite probably piston slap. Are they single-ring?

You'll be amazed at the difference just a set of rings will make if you've been using the same ones all year! We've all seen it here, where you don't feel the drop off in power over time, and then do a dyno and find you are missing 5~8hp! The transformation in power is astounding sometimes.

If you are racing, then I would expect to do at least 2 sets of pistons in a season, and at least 2 sets of rings per set of piston... at the very least. If it's like every other weekend for 6~8 months, then I would expect to double that if you're serious!
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Thu Apr 16, 2009 6:01 am » Post: #14 » Download Post

Well I thought I better check in and post some sort of an update.

At the moment my bike is in a million bits in the shed.

Everything is going to be checked cleaned and checked again.

Two top end rebuild kits and some other little goodies are on their way from Tyga (Those guys are so good).

New Brake pads

New spark plugs

A spare set of wheels cause I'm gonna go to slicks and wets this season (Once my account looks a bit healthier)

New tire warmers

New internals in the front forks and I'm trying to sort something for the rear 1900NZ$ for a Ohlins............I don't think so!

I'm hoping to give racing a good nudge this year top 10 results would be nice.

I'm getting progressively faster which in my opinion is the best way to do it.

I'm not throwing the bike down the track to often so I'll try and keep it that way.

I've heard there are a few serious bikes coming out of the woodwork this year so it'll be interesting to see how fast they are.
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