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Wiring diagram question

Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:18 am » Post: #1 » Download Post

howdy all (well mainly Andy and the wiring diagram creator Evil or Very Mad )


I'm tracing out the wiring to the PGM III on my harness, and on the black connector I don't have a Br/Gn and Br/Wht. Instead I have P/W and P/Bu.

On the white connectorI have a couple of odd colours as well.

I'm wondering if this is something that changed with the models, or if I am going colourblind. Can someone else check their harness as well please?

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Hello can you helpo me out !

Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:05 pm » Post: #2 » Download Post

I need wiringdiagrams for the honda nsr 250 mc18 rj2/rj4 , can someone please help me out.
So i can fix my bike.
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Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:11 am » Post: #3 » Download Post

ok, I just sighted another harness, and it has the same colour codes as what I have.

So my question for the broader audience......anyone else have the same as the wiring diagram or am I going colour blind? Sad
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Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:52 pm » Post: #4 » Download Post

There are 3 different wiring diagrams for the MC21.

The only available scan of an MC21 wiring harness at the time (about 7 years ago) was absolutely abysmal, with scribbled Japanese characters on it with English translations of the colours. I will try and find the original version of the diagram, and YOU can clean it up, translate the Japanese scribbles, re-draw it nice and neatly, and make it available for download!

Edit: I found it! See what you can do with this! Bear in mind that there are only 7 colours listed too, eh! Rolling Eyes

Everything on the Site is subject to improvement if anyone out there actually wants to contribute/update something. In the mean time I'll plod on as time allows.
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Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:59 pm » Post: #5 » Download Post

Colour MC21 diagram anyone.

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Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:49 pm » Post: #6 » Download Post

Yeah, I've asked them to put the ©2002 NSR-WORLD.COM back on that, and to acknowledge the original diagram was used from here, and a link to the Workshop on the originating website, else I will asked for it to be removed.

It's one think linking in, but removing the copyright and modifying the image (that took me many hours of work) is taking the piss.

And people wonder why I'm in no great rush to finish the English Workshop Manual! Rolling Eyes


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Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:33 pm » Post: #7 » Download Post

Call me old fashioned, but I much prefer the original one, easier on the eye and you know that printing it out it won't be hard to distinguish the colours Smile

Andy, I am no way criticising you for your work done to date to document all the paraphernalia associated with the NSR, and appreciate the fact that trying to do this while running a forum and leading a life outside of the forum.

As a part of what I am doing, I am more than happy to identify any information that has not been documented, and if others can verify that is the case with their bikes, happy to submit it to be added into the forum for the greater good.

edit: BTW, thank you Andy for being the only person that has responded, even though it didn't really answer my question
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Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:18 pm » Post: #8 » Download Post

hey guys,
sorry it didnt have a watermark, i get sent lots of diagrams,
and the one i got set was the original white on black and didnt have the nsr.com on it,
all i did was just reverse it and then colour it Very Happy
i have added a water mark on it, as andy requested.
hope thats to your satisfaction.
i just collect and post diagrams for the greater good Very Happy
i dont ask where they come from Very Happy

here is my original post

wiring diagrams i hope one day they will help some one else out Very Happy
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Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:00 pm » Post: #9 » Download Post

Sorry nxrsr20, it was the "evil/very mad" smiley that yanked my chain, as if I was in the wrong yet again for something!

I won't labour on it, but I don't have the patience I used to a few years ago, and what with the countless private e-mails I get from people asking for stuff who don't even have the courtesy to join the forum, let alone contribute to it, frankly quite often does my head in!

I also find it frustrating that there are a lot of people with answers out there, yet it so often comes down to me to reply to the questions. The answers only seem to get dragged out of people when I disappear off the forum for a few weeks!

The coloured version of the wiring diagram linked to by the bikechat forum is actually rather good (probably because I drew the original! Smile), but I am pissed off that whoever supplied it has obviously removed the NSR-WORLD reference, and that's plain and simple piss-poor etiquette. They probably even claimed it was their own work. Rolling Eyes
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Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:30 pm » Post: #10 » Download Post

ill go through my emails and see if i can see who sent it to me in the first place,
i can't say any one has ever claimed to me that they have done a diagram themselves,
i know the work involved in doing diagrams, as i do them myself.
im sorry that it wasn't given credit where it was due.
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Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:38 pm » Post: #11 » Download Post

Forget about it now hmmmnz. As long as there is a credit for NSR-WORLD.COM on it again, leave it at that.

Thank you for taking the time and trouble to register and post about it here.
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Let me get the flame suit on....

Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:22 pm » Post: #12 » Download Post

As a newcomer who has trawled through most of the threads seeking answers, I have to say that this site is a great source of information, although there does occasionally seem to be an 'NSR mafia' element to it, where the helpful tone changes to one of 'holier-than-thou'.

.....it so often comes down to me to reply to the questions....


Possibly because their comments can often be subject to uneccessarily sacrastic replies (many users do this). This may be true of many online forums, but the result is the same. I know it's your website mate, but if you want people to contribute freely, then you have to let them have some freedom over what they say and do.

....but I am pissed off that whoever supplied it has obviously removed the NSR-WORLD reference, and that's plain and simple piss-poor etiquette. They probably even claimed it was their own work.


Just like the reference to Honda that should have been on the diagram you copied in the first place? Yes, it is correct etiquette to provide acknowledgment of data sources, lest you be accused of plagarism.

I thought that one of the key objectives of a site such as this was to provide an environment where information is shared - surely there are no proprietry secrets involved. This guy spent a lot of time colouring a diagram (like I have) that was not otherwise available, for the benefit of any MC21 owner - it doesn't appear to be done for commercial advantage.

These are just some objective comments, don't let comments born from a lack of patience spoil an otherwise great site. My 2cents.
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Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:40 pm » Post: #13 » Download Post

that has to be one of the best posts i have read in a long time Very Happy
i for one just collect and post diagrams just so others don't have to go searching,
really, honda along with other manufactures, should provide diagrams and manuals for free, its not our fault we have to fix their bloody machines Very Happy

any way Very Happy
this seems to be a good a site as any i have visited, ill be sure to be back, if i ever aquire an illusive nsr Very Happy

cheers lads
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Re: Let me get the flame suit on....

Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:29 am » Post: #14 » Download Post

Middo wrote:
....but I am pissed off that whoever supplied it has obviously removed the NSR-WORLD reference, and that's plain and simple piss-poor etiquette. They probably even claimed it was their own work.


Just like the reference to Honda that should have been on the diagram you copied in the first place? Yes, it is correct etiquette to provide acknowledgment of data sources, lest you be accused of plagarism.


Yes, you are quite right, except for the fact I have only re-arranged the English text from the original scan and there was no Honda logo or name to actually remove! I didn't include all the Japanese text (it is an English translation, after all), and I doubt it's a Honda legal/copyright statement.

I've never passed the wiring diagram off as my origination, however the translation is mine, hence the (likelihood of some) inaccuracies when you see what I had to work from. If you look across the Site you will find that I try to use as many original images as possible, and try to remember to credit those that are not.

I don't expect everyone to like, appreciate, or even understand my "lowest form of wit"! A sarcastic reply sometimes follows a deserving post, sometimes is aimed at someone who can merrily take the piss back, and on occasion just for a laugh! Sarcasm and irony are great British qualities, and I'm certainly not apologising for that!

If I see something I don't agree with or don't like however, I admit I'm not usually the last person left holding my tongue!
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