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Prospective NSR owners - what do you (they?) really want?


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Prospective NSR owners - what do you (they?) really want?

Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:13 am » Post: #1 » Download Post

As many of you know I have three NSR250 mc21's in various states of rebuild right now.

At least one and maybe two of them have to be sold sometime before the end of the next race season, so the question is, what should I build?

    Decent useable trackbike? £1700 or so, maybe a couple of hundred quid more with a dry clutch. Could be with a daylight MOT too.

    Higher spec trackbike, sorted forks, decent rear shock, fresh motor, maybe tweaked a bit. The problem is this bike needs to make £3k.

    Decent usable roadbike? £1800 or so MOT'd and ready to go, maybe a couple of hundred more with a dry clutch.

After looking at the trouble Les has had selling his mc21se with more money spent on parts than he wants for the entire bike I won't even ask about trying to shift a decent spec fresh motored good road bike and not lose a lot of money.

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Fri Nov 04, 2011 9:23 am » Post: #2 » Download Post

My view is build a road bike, as you are well aware they sell well on 'that site'
I've been on the lookout for an NSR for ages now, and not seen one I wish to buy, (or the nice ones have sold already)
Basically I am willing to spend up to £3k (can't see the need to spend more) but would want SE/SP spec, with original panels, preferably not resprayed, and in standard colours (no specific colour wanted, ie Rothmans etc) A hard market to jusdge when trying to sell, but from a buyers point of view, I know at any one time, there are 10 - 20 bikes for sale, so they are not 'rare' in my book, and I have the time to wait until the 'right one' comes along.
I've been offered all sorts of bikes, from minters, to crashed/seized bikes that look ready for the skip, cheapest was £1K (and that wasn't the worst one either) up to £4K don't think they are worth that yet as dealers have all the same bikes for sale months after advertising. (why Fastline sold loads at Stafford rather than elsewhere, I have no idea) maybe rose tinted specs, but all look to have been laquered over to look shiny to me.

Sorry for the waffle, but a prospective buyers viewpoint. Smile

As a sidenote, didn't think Les's bike was an SE version. (the Cup bike?)
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Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:20 am » Post: #3 » Download Post

I would say a reasonable track bike as i may need to find one for next year if i wish to attend the 2 stroke track days!
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Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:04 pm » Post: #4 » Download Post

track bike Very Happy
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Fri Nov 04, 2011 1:54 pm » Post: #5 » Download Post

If I wasn't on the wrong side of the pond I'd say build me a street bike with dry clutch... but I don't think shipping it will work terribly well.


Can you send it piece by piece as "parts"?
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Fri Nov 04, 2011 3:08 pm » Post: #6 » Download Post

t3racing wrote:I would say a reasonable track bike as i may need to find one for next year if i wish to attend the 2 stroke track days!


I may just build up my wet bike with a dry clutch motor, fresh top end, the NSR-World bodywork and advertise it while I build up the road bike (read van full of bits) I fetched from the IOW yesterday.

RS_BOTT, the problem with comparing bikes sold privately with bikes sold in Fastline etc. is that bikes sold privately do run and are in use, the ones just imported have sat for 10 years or more in a container, been cleaned, kicked up (with abit of help from a spot of EasyStart) and sold. RichG and BD197 have both been bitten by big £££ dealer bikes.

Les's bike (which you're right, is R spec, I thought is was SE) is worth a good £500+ more than any R model that's just arrived from Japan.

The problem is the more bikes that arrive from Japan the less likely you are to find a tidy SE/SP for £3k (unless the market collapses again), you flat out cannot get a bike bought, transported, tax paid and sold for £3k unless the bike costs a few hundred quid. The only reason prices were ever low is 'cause bikes that were £4k in 1995 (when a house was £25k, a pint of beer was £1.50 and £4 a hour was an OK wage) had been devalued by time and no one wanting them.
Once demand started ourstripping supply prices have to rise to at least a price that means a bike can be bought in Japan, shipped here, registered and sold for an amount of money that makes it worth someones while.
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Sat Nov 05, 2011 9:48 am » Post: #7 » Download Post

what would i get if i offered a vfr400 in exchange ?
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Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:19 am » Post: #8 » Download Post

i dont think your going to go wrong by putting together a road bike with a fresh top end, would be a good buy to anyone at the money your talking about.
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Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:03 pm » Post: #9 » Download Post

What do they want? That's easy, Rothmans MC28s.

Fit SSSAs and chinky bodywork to them, then put any price you like on them Very Happy
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Tue Nov 08, 2011 5:30 pm » Post: #10 » Download Post

If i had some spare bikes and bits to sell, i'd sell them as road bikes.. they are fetching decent money in my opinion....and you certainly cant judge how many bikes are for sale by looking on ebay... so how many others are sold but still listed by dealers wanting to attract punters..?

Any decent NSR with dry clutch, adj suspension, magteks and decent bodywork will fetch good money i reckon..original SP or not.... they're all rare desirable bikes
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Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:12 pm » Post: #11 » Download Post

castroljc wrote:what would i get if i offered a vfr400 in exchange ?


From looking at what VFRs fetch these days about half of the contents of the massive box of bits I bought from the IOW!

I think the days of swapping 400's for 250's (I swapped my RVF400 for an HRC carded mc28) are gone, I doubt anyone would go for an nc30 for an mc21 deal unless the nc30 was a UK bike and really tidy.
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