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Mon Oct 06, 2008 6:20 pm » Post: #1 » Download Post

would an mc18 pgm 2 plug straight into my hrc 21 harness and give more or better horses?
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Mon Oct 06, 2008 6:52 pm » Post: #2 » Download Post

No, and therefore no! The PGM-II doesn't have the 16P white plug.

There is nothing inherantly wrong with the PGM-III with a wiresplice. Don't spend money just for the sake of it.

If you want something different, you want an F3 PGM-III or PGM-II, or an NF5 PGM-II, but you need all the other mods to make use of it. A bike equipped with a spliced harness and PGM-III is certainly capable of making 70hp.
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Mon Oct 06, 2008 7:16 pm » Post: #3 » Download Post

cheers andy i was just thinking out loud again Rolling Eyes i must stop doing that Laughing what would a 21 f3 pgm fetch ? would you sell yours?
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Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:56 pm » Post: #4 » Download Post

I think I may be selling a F3 PGM-II and harness, a set or two of F3 carbs, and an F3 frame.

I think Fontyyy has his eyes on the PGM-II though, and to be fair, that's probably the best home for it seeing as he's racing and using AVGAS... it is what it was designed for after all.
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Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:20 pm » Post: #5 » Download Post

yes true mate and if the pgm 3 can take 70 there would be no point to me swapping it Very Happy
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Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:57 pm » Post: #6 » Download Post

Andy, I'm begining to become concerned for your wellbeing.

Not only do you now drive a hairdressers car, you're finaly parting with some of your F3 hord!

You'll be telling us you've bought a four stroke next Shocked
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Tue Oct 07, 2008 2:45 am » Post: #7 » Download Post

It's less hairdresser than the one that got stolen, and at least it's an import!

Import car, import bike, import wife, as Matt@TYGA likes to say! Very Happy

I've got pretty much all the F3 stuff I need to be honest. A full MC16's worth, a full MC18's worth, and the important bits for the MC21 (frame, ignition, shock, transmission, carbs etc.), so it won't hurt to spread the rest of the bits around if people want them badly enough!
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Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:26 pm » Post: #8 » Download Post

Andy wrote:There is nothing inherantly wrong with the PGM-III with a wiresplice.
Shall I hop from PGMIV defender to PGMIII basher now I've got a PGMII?
White plug? GPS? Delimiter? Multiple splices? It all sounds a bit complex really to me.
ROTFLMAO

Anyway Mr Andy, indeed I would appreciate first refusal on any of your F3 type parts should you decide to really part company with them as opposed to just talk about it.
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Wed Oct 08, 2008 12:47 am » Post: #9 » Download Post

fontyyy wrote:
Shall I hop from PGMIV defender to PGMIII basher now I've got a PGMII?

White plug? GPS? Delimiter? Multiple splices? It all sounds a bit complex really to me.
ROTFLMAO

Don't tell me you've gone from an all-show-and-no-go PGM-IV to a real PGM and now only have 45hp 'cos you've not spliced it?! Shocked
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Wed Oct 08, 2008 5:46 pm » Post: #10 » Download Post

PMSL, even I'm aware the PGMII needs a splice (and that was my point, one splice), it's not done yet as I'm a bit of a step by step type of guy;
Fit PGMII and 18 road loom - check it works
Remove road bits from loom - check it works
Wiresplice needs doing still and I think I need to get an 18/21 temp sender unit, the '28 on is an NSR specific (KV3) part, the '18 is not and my temp gauge ('18 clocks) doesn't work.

So indeed I've probably got just a fraction over 45 bhp (ported barrels, a tad more compression), still even that makes it one of the fastest '28's around Wink
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Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:09 pm » Post: #11 » Download Post

Mine only has the one (orange/blue) splice... Wink
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Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:37 pm » Post: #12 » Download Post

One of the fastest MC28s??????? Mine must be THE fastest then.....but I know thats not going to be true either.
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Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:37 pm » Post: #13 » Download Post

We'll see Leigh, we'll see Wink

Just spliced it and took it down the road (running the PGMII), feels no different to the PGMIV, 030 card and '21 flywheel.

Glad to see HRC made such progress in the years from PGMII to PGMIV Rolling Eyes
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