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Need help with trying to find a NSR

Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:22 am » Post: #1 » Download Post

Hi i live in the US and i am looking to import at Nsr250 or 400 for a track bike. If possible can some tell me a few things to watch out for. Also what is a good company to get a used NSR from. Please post problems or any helpful thoughts you may have..
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Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:17 am » Post: #2 » Download Post

If you're not fussed about getting a 400, you'll make life a lot easier by forgetting two strokes! Crying or Very sad

The are technically illegal in the US, and if you do a search for 'titling' on here, you'll read all the painful stories from those who've done it. It can be done, but if you are not bothered whether you get a 2 or a 4 stroke, buy a 4, it'll be easier to sell on after too.

Now, having shot myself in the foot as a two stroke enthusiast, I can heartily recommend any 250 2 stroke! They are out there, and you can get them in to the country, just don't expect it to be easy if you live in a tight ass state! Wink
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NSR for a street bike is sweet ....

Wed Jul 13, 2005 12:21 pm » Post: #3 » Download Post

but for a track bike, i would reccomend a TZ250 or an RS 250
both can be had for the 3 - 4 k range for 93-96 range
and more for newer

the amount of money you would need to put into an NSR to get it closer to the power of either of those would not make sense, and the NSR reliabliity would go down as the power goes up... not to mention the extra weight of the NSR...


check out www.tz250racing.com

they have both types of bikes there in the classifieds
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Wed Jul 13, 2005 1:43 pm » Post: #4 » Download Post

I posted on the other thread.

I race an NSR250 and if you are not expecting the max power from it then you can tune it to be quite low-maintenance, whereas the RS250 will require more work. I know of an RS250 a friend here in Japan is selling right now. It comes with boxes of spares, heads ground to different heights, pistons, and the stuff you'll need to run it for a while etc. etc.. I can put you in touch if you like.
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Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:11 pm » Post: #5 » Download Post

Thank you all. No i wanted a rvf or a vfr 400 cause of my size. Im 6'2 but i only weight 190 pounds. I cant fit a lot of 600 on the track. So i want something that i can push around first and have run with.
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Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:57 pm » Post: #6 » Download Post

I'm a little over 6 foot tall, and ride an MC21; StephenRC45 is even taller and rides, rather quickly I might add, an MC18 & an MC21 (as well as his RC45).

I'm not saying they are ideal for someone our size (given that we are both a little on the "portly" side!) but it doesn't slow us down much, and if you can learn to hustle a 60hp+ 250 quickly, well... Very Happy
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Wed Jul 13, 2005 3:41 pm » Post: #7 » Download Post

Andy wrote:I'm a little over 6 foot tall, and ride an MC21;

StephenRC45 is even taller and rides, rather quickly I might add, an MC18 & an MC21 (as well as his RC45). but not that quickly Razz

I'm not saying they are ideal for someone our size (given that we are both a little on the "portly" side!) but it doesn't slow us down much, and if you can learn to hustle a 60hp+ 250 quickly, well... Very Happy


yup andys right, i am just shy of 6ft and erm....slightly padded and i lurve my NSR Very Happy
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Wed Jul 13, 2005 4:37 pm » Post: #8 » Download Post

If your buying a bike specific for track use, then you don't need to worry about getting it titled. This is good, as you won't need to pay the premium for the title. Of course without the title the resell won't be as much, but hey, it's all for fun.

Now you can pick one up in the US, and save yourself the head ache of dealing with shipping, customs and dealing with a foreign seller who could possible screw you. Keep an eye on the classifieds section here, eBay, the different web sites/forums for race clubs around the country, and other websites/forums centered around motorcycles. They come up for sale pretty often.

An NSR and VFR/RVF are pretty much the same size in terms of seat height, so getting one over the other isn't going to make it more comfortable for taller/shorter people. As a track day bike, they should both be pretty equal in power.

An NSR will go a good distance in stock form with the work to derestrict it. I ran my NSR at race pace with track days in between the race weekends for an entire season on one top end. Never had a problem with it. I think I put in over 35 days on the track with it last year. A rebuild cost be about $250.00 for the top end rebuild (maybe more, but under $300.00 for sure).

Getting a Honda TS or Yamaha TZ250 will mean more work over all. They are not the best selection for track day bikes, and are geared more towards racing, and the commitment one puts into racing it. With top end rebuilds at 300 miles, cleaning power valves each time, cleaning exhaust of carbon each time, constant checking, rejetting depending on weather (sometimes three times a day), the cost goes up in terms of annual maintenance. I don't even want to know how much I spend on my RS250 over a year, cause I would probably check myself into a mental ward if I did. for the most part, once you get the NSR setup properly with jetting, you can set it and forget it. I ran my NSR all season after getting the setup correct. Never had to rejet and rejet again...

Oh ye, fuel. The NSR will run fine on 100 octane fuel with a good grade of 2-stroke oil. The RS... race gas at $7-$10 a gallon, with $80 a gallon oil. At a burn rate of 1 gallon every 20 minutes? Yep, NSR is the more economical choice Smile

Even jetting an RS rich, you will still need to do top ends more then the NSR. You will also eat more fuel, and oil. Oh, and you will also foul your $30.00 spark plugs more (compared to the $9.00 NSR plugs).

All in all, your better choice for a track day bike would be a NSR or other street based 2-stroke (TZR, RGV or Aprilia RS).

Of course this is based on my experience, and opinion, so others may disagree.

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height thing

Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:57 pm » Post: #9 » Download Post

Very Happy anyone can fit on a nsr well mabe not I struggled to fit on a 28, it was like a bit of origami folding me on but I got there in the end. I am 6ft7 and 0ver 200lbs and I have been round knockhill and cadwell and the tt course on proddy 250s a a good pace so size dont matter.a 250tt will still give people a fright in the right hands, and if yours dont fit right you will learn. Twisted Evil
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Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:15 pm » Post: #10 » Download Post

thank you all i think im going after the rvf 400. I like it alot better. Also what do you all know about these two companies. the www.ibike.com.hk andwww.bike.com.hk. Is it worth the time or should i just ship one from another area.
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Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:21 pm » Post: #11 » Download Post

It's up to you but IMHO the mc28 is a better bike than the RVF to ride (I've got both) it feels quicker and handles far better, it won't last as long, will be more trouble and will cost far more to run but if you can afford it you won't regret it.
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Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:41 pm » Post: #12 » Download Post

just testing
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Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:43 pm » Post: #13 » Download Post

What do you mean Monkey, the only tiem i saw you as Cadwell was when i over took you on the grass while i was racing with the tyre wall and at Llandow just as i was warming up you quit saying you where tired Wink
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Thu Jul 14, 2005 12:05 am » Post: #14 » Download Post

cool i may look at at mc28. But who can i but one from and if so who imports motorcycles
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Thu Jul 14, 2005 1:02 am » Post: #15 » Download Post

Don't rule out the MC21!!
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