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Sun Feb 05, 2012 6:57 pm » Post: #1 » Download Post

What is the preferred position to install the EGT sensor probe on a nsr exhaust pipe ?
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Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:25 am » Post: #2 » Download Post

Hi Neal

I placed mine 110mm from the front of the skirt. Running unleaded it is bloody hard to do plug readings. Well, I fid it hard anyway compared to leaded fuel.

Mine is peaking at 1100deg F, sometimes jumps up to 1150 as I close the throttle. It feels fine tho, but I wouldnt go any leaner...
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Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:30 pm » Post: #3 » Download Post

Thanks mate , i am doing a pre season track day this weekend so i will do the EGT thing afterwards .
Why 110mm ?
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Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:49 am » Post: #4 » Download Post

I am also interested in this information. Could you show us a photo of your installation please Simon?
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Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:37 pm » Post: #5 » Download Post

Will do. Information was from Matt @ Tyga as I use his chambers. He recommended between 100 and 125mm from the edge of the piston and set his to in the middle - 112mm. The Koso guide specified a similar distance.

I think that going wildly away from these will result in quite different reading with pressure waves, etc, but I am no expert.

On the subject of jetting, I thought that I may have too large a main as it is larger than the norm. I know that we cannot talk sizes, but it is in the region of 200. However the EGT temp suggests that it is bang on.
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Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:36 pm » Post: #6 » Download Post

Thanks , i will use that info so that i can be sure i am talking about the same readings when i do the installation .
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Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:27 am » Post: #7 » Download Post

I went for a quick blast down the road and found out that this EGT is very usefull ! It showed me that i was 1 jet on the lean side when i thought before that i was spot on .
Definetly worth buying one !
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Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:04 pm » Post: #8 » Download Post

Is there a procedure for tuning with an EGT?
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Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:08 pm » Post: #9 » Download Post

When you ride along a decent stretch of road and are wide open , the sensor shows the gas temp . Anything over 1200 deg faronheight is danger and you need to increase your main jet size
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Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:27 pm » Post: #10 » Download Post

Good to hear. Did you buy the Koso Dual and mount it the same distance from the piston as I did? Mine is peaking at 1250 deg - wouldnt want any leaner I think..
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Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:02 pm » Post: #11 » Download Post

Watch the EGT rise. If it peaks and then starts to fall again while on WOT then the chances are that you're starting to detonate. This is due to the detonation causing the combustion chamber temp to rise, but the exhaust gas temp to drop.....dangerous and will result in damage.

If you're up to 1250 degrees then you're pretty close to ideal, but if you intend to do lots of flat out riding then I'd be tempted to throw some bigger brass in there to drop the temp 50 degrees. This might knock off half a pony, but it'll keep that half a pony less for longer.

Messing with the ignition timing can change your EGT. More retard will heat up the combustion chamber later, so less heat is lost to the cooling system and more heat escapes into the pipe, so EGT will rise. More advance does the opposite, with more heat being lost to the cooling system before it exits the exhaust port, so EGT will drop.
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Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:01 pm » Post: #12 » Download Post

With respect to the amount of gasolin coming through the carburetor(Wink), is it just a matter of, the leaner the hotter or are there any subtle indications there as well ?
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Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:11 pm » Post: #13 » Download Post

Hi Matt

Yes, mine reads a bit over 1200, what seems to happen is that it spikes up briefly as I close the throttle from WOT and then comes back down again. I am running mains that are much larger than others have posted, thankfully the EGT kept me in check. Seat of the pants suggested that it was pretty spot on as well.
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Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:39 am » Post: #14 » Download Post

Did you sort out the spike in the EGT temps ?
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Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:29 am » Post: #15 » Download Post

No, not yet,as I havent ridden it. I had an issue with the regulator, purchased a blackbird one, straight out of HK for US$20. Works okay now.

Can you please PM me about chambers? There are a couple of 300s here in NZ, and perhaps get your guy to talk with Wobbly about some chambers that are specifically designed for the 300 rather than the 250. Of course, I would love for Tyga to make some! The standard Tyga ones seem to run out of puff
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