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Noisy engine

Mon Jul 03, 2006 5:41 pm » Post: #1 » Download Post

Can anybody please give me some advice. I've recently bought a 150 NSR 1997 model. It goes well, however the engine is extremely noisy. I've already had the piston replaced and some work done on the clutch. This lessened the noise marginally. The local machanic who worked on the bike said that the "valve" is working properly and that the noise is typical of 2 stroke bikes - although I have heard other 2 stoke bikes (same model) purring like kittens. The noise generally sounds very "tinny" and sometimes it actually disappears (but only for a few seconds). This is my first 2 stroke bike and whilst I know that 2 stroke engines are somewhat noisier than 4 stroke, I think mine is just tooooo bad! I'd really appreciate some advice and/or comments... thanks guys
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Mon Jul 03, 2006 10:17 pm » Post: #2 » Download Post

Where are you? Maybe one of our wizer members can listen to it for you?
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Tue Jul 04, 2006 1:32 am » Post: #3 » Download Post

The NSR150SP can be a noisy little bugger. Ive done a couple of noisy 150's and it was down to piston/bore clearance. Hunted through pistons and got the clearance at 0.04mm. This seemed to work. Not perfect, but better.

I even know of one guy that complained to AP Honda (Honda Thailand) about a noisy 150SP and he was told, they all sound like that mister.

You really have to consider the price and realise that these are 'made in Thailand' budget bikes. I know that you want something to purr but that ain't gonna happen with an NSR150SP!
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Tue Jul 04, 2006 1:56 pm » Post: #4 » Download Post

Dave Ett wrote:Where are you? Maybe one of our wizer members can listen to it for you?

Thanks for the reply Dave. I'm actually in Thailand. Do you know of any experts out here?
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Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:02 pm » Post: #5 » Download Post

Matt@TYGA wrote:The NSR150SP can be a noisy little bugger. Ive done a couple of noisy 150's and it was down to piston/bore clearance. Hunted through pistons and got the clearance at 0.04mm. This seemed to work. Not perfect, but better.

I even know of one guy that complained to AP Honda (Honda Thailand) about a noisy 150SP and he was told, they all sound like that mister.

You really have to consider the price and realise that these are 'made in Thailand' budget bikes. I know that you want something to purr but that ain't gonna happen with an NSR150SP!


Thanks for the reply and the empathy Matt. I certainly wouldn't mind opening up the engine myself and replacing the piston and cylinder myself.
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Tue Jul 04, 2006 4:06 pm » Post: #6 » Download Post

aquaman1 wrote:Thanks for the reply Dave. I'm actually in Thailand. Do you know of any experts out here?


Oh one or two... Rolling Eyes



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Wed Jul 05, 2006 2:19 am » Post: #7 » Download Post

Hey Dave, you'd better read aquaman1's post again properly.....he asked for experts, not expats Exclamation
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Wed Jul 05, 2006 2:30 am » Post: #8 » Download Post

Matt@TYGA wrote:Hey Dave, you'd better read aquaman1's post again properly.....he asked for experts, not expats Exclamation


Nor a Matt Patt! Rolling Eyes

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Wed Jul 05, 2006 6:30 am » Post: #9 » Download Post

Well an ex is a has been, and a spert is a drip under pressure, so I kinda figured you guys fitted that description perfectly! Wink
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Thu Jul 06, 2006 1:36 am » Post: #10 » Download Post

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Sat Jul 08, 2006 12:38 pm » Post: #11 » Download Post

Surprised The engine noise is okay with me. Its the bloody exhaust. Making noise so sharp that its a modded 125 or 110cc Bike. I mean, can we NSR150's get to hear sound like those 250cc bike?

By the way, my bike model is NSR 150 RR. Does it have anything different? The year of the model is '97 I guess.
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Wed Jul 12, 2006 3:17 am » Post: #12 » Download Post

The NSR150RR has different cylinder/piston and head combination. The cylinder is no where near as aggressively ported as the SP version. Thankfully though the SP cylinder just bolts on Very Happy

There may be some other differences but not sure at this point.
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Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:31 pm » Post: #13 » Download Post

Matt@TYGA wrote:The NSR150RR has different cylinder/piston and head combination. The cylinder is no where near as aggressively ported as the SP version. Thankfully though the SP cylinder just bolts on Very Happy

There may be some other differences but not sure at this point.



Hi Matt,

Just out of interest, as I`ve just got a 300 kit, which cylinders are used for this set-up?
Obviuosly if it`s the rr ones, I`m wondering if the engine would be able to cope with sp spec porting without needing rebuilding every five minutes.
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Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:02 am » Post: #14 » Download Post

SP barrels used on the 300 kit. Far from standard though.
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Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:43 am » Post: #15 » Download Post

Andy is of course correct. And thinking about it, why would anyone want to use the 'inferior' RR barrels when SP's are available.

The internals of the NSR150 are reasonable robust so the RR cylinder will struggle to stress anything. Even the SP with a pipe is only making 30 odd ponies with no engine work.

We ran 40hp NSR150's back in '96 and didn't suffer any engine failures. A bit of clutch slip was the worst we had to deal with but that was cured with some stronger clutch springs.
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